Publish minutes of 2025-03-25 - 2025-03-28 F2F meetings in Berlin

[Rob--W]

Generated from https://docs.google.com/document/d/1vNpYgFydLZmboBMX2G8YV0T-m7YwI17evtytT48TQ6E/edit using the tool and process from #105.

The WECG met in-person for four days on 2025-03-25 (#759, https://github.com/w3c/webextensions/wiki/2025-Berlin-F2F-Coordination). We discussed 38 issues/PRs and many topics without issue. This PR adds the minutes of the discussed topics on these days.

Tuesday, 25 march 2025

Discussed or mentioned issues: #274, #711, #468, #731, #362 and PRs #370, #569, #586, #587, #598, #641, #676, #793.

Agenda of _minutes/2025-03-25-berlin-f2f.md:

• State of Browsers
  • Google Chrome extensions
  • Apple Safari extensions
  • Mozilla Firefox extensions
  • Microsoft Edge extensions
  • Q&A: Questions & Answers
• State of the Extensions
  • Grammarly
  • AdGuard
• Proposal PR Resolution
  • PR 370: Initial Firefox schemas, 2023Q1
  • PR 569: Proposal: i18n-system-languages
  • PR 586: Proposal: documentId in tabs.query() filter
  • PR 587: Proposal: downloads.getFileHash()
  • PR 598: Proposal: manifest key trial_tokens
  • PR 641: Proposal: Per-extension language preferences
  • PR 676: Proposal: Public Suffix API
• Content Script Params
• Data Collection Consent
• DNR: What's missing
  • Issue 468: [DNR] Redirect rule does not allow applying other redirect rules to the resulting request
  • Issue 731: Incorrect application of "domainType: thirdParty" in DNR
• DNR: Cosmetic Rules

Wednesday, 26 march 2025

Discussed or mentioned issues: #138, #353, #789, #700, #711, #756, #701, #123, #454, #693 and PR #792.

Agenda of _minutes/2025-03-26-berlin-f2f.md:

• Issue triage (Part 1)
  • runtime.onInvalidated event and related
  • Issue 700: Declaring compatible websites (without prompting the user)
  • Issue 756: Proposal: Exclude Matching
  • Issue 701: Block extension from specific hosts
• Platform Documentation
• Finally Write a Spec?
• Extensions & AI
• Browser Automation
  • Issue 693: Add API to switch focus from sidePanel to main document to enable accessibility features
  • Accessibility trees
• Testing Sync
  • wpt.fyi and interop

Thursday, 27 march 2025

Discussed or mentioned issues #711, #439, #493, #783, #694, #468, #198, #128, #138, #353, #763 and PRs #788, #792.

Agenda of _minutes/2025-03-27-berlin-f2f.md:

• WG Discussion
• Upgrade Permissions
• DNR: What's missing?
  • Issue 439: Proposal: Add filter for DNR modifyHeaders?
  • Issue 468: [DNR] Redirect rule does not allow applying other redirect rules to the resulting request
  • Issue 493: Support for redirect-only rules.
• Action & Sidebar UI
  • Issue 198: Proposal: action.default_area=navbar and action.default_area=hidden
  • Issue 128: Unified sidebar proposal
• Lifecycle & Matching
  • Issue 138: Proposal: let content scripts listen for event to detect when the extension is unloaded (for various reasons)
  • Issue 763: Proposal: Add topFrameMatches / excludeTopFrameMatches

Thursday, 28 march 2025

Discussed or mentioned issues #713, #717, #783, #694, #198, #12, #617, #719, #77 and PR #793.

Agenda of _minutes/2025-03-27-berlin-f2f.md:

• Issue triage (Part 2)
  • Issue 713: Should tabs.Tab.lastAccessed be optional?
  • Issue 717: Feature Request: [ContextMenus] Include <canvas>s in the "page" ContextType (or it's own ContextType)
  • Issue 783: Conditional enabling/disabling of DNR rules.
  • Issue 694: Unlike webRequestBlocking, DNR rules are not applied to redirected requests — should this behavior be reconsidered?
  • Issue 198 Action.default_area
  • Issue 12: request: allow to retrieve a frameID from an <iframe> element
  • Issue 617: manifest key to enable automatic injection of content scripts after installation/update
  • PR 793: Add proposal: Synchronous data at startup
  • Issue 719: Adding a temporary listener just for the current run of the service worker or event page so it doesn't wake up next time for this event
  • Issue 783: Conditional skipping of DNR rules.
  • Issue 77: Proposal: Provide a secure drop-in replacement for window.postMessage()
• Open discussion
• Long Term Direction
  • Events and live objects
  • Named globals
  • browser.addEventListener
  • API design principles
• Wrap-up discussions
  • Next meetup and goals

[Rob--W]

List of action items and resolutions from the meeting notes; the list items are literally copied from the notes, see the docs for further context:

• Action Item: Tomislav to update PR 370.
• Action Item: Rob to review PR 569.
• Action Item: Apple, Google, Mozilla to review PR 586.
• Action Item: Assign Safari as sponsoring browser on PR 586.
• Resolution: Close PR 587 for lack of sponsoring browser.
• Resolution: Merge PR 598.
• Action Item: Look into PR 641 or issue 274 as alternative.
• Resolution: top-level navigation without initiator should be classified as domainType: firstParty
• Action Item: Firefox to implement resolution of issue 731.
• Action Item: Chrome to implement resolution of issue 731.
• Action Item: Carlos to create PR for issue 138 with Chrome as sponsoring browser.
  • Done: Proposal: runtime.onInvalidated event #792
• Resolution: Close issue 700, Chrome and Safari are opposed.
• Resolution: Chrome, Firefox, Safari in favor of supporting exclude of match patterns across APIs; the exact mechanism is still up for discussion, in issue 756.
• Resolution: Close issue in favor of issue 123, the “do I have access” part of the request will be covered by an issue Carlos is going to file.
• Action Item: Timothy to add background to the spec
• Action Item: Tomislav to add permissions to the spec
• Action Item: Tomislav to check how trial_tokens (issue 454) can be supported in Firefox.
• Action Item: Oliver to add trial_tokens to the spec.
  • Done: Add trial_tokens key to specification #791
• Action Item: Devlin to review the WPT PR.
  • WPT PR: Add the ability to load and test web extensions. web-platform-tests/wpt#50648
  • RFC PR: Add support for testing the WebExtensions API in WPT web-platform-tests/rfcs#219
• Action Item: Oliver to drive finishing draft of charter for WG
• Resolution: Chrome, Firefox, Safari supportive of a new enum field to customize permission granting behavior on update to address issue 711
• Action Item: Oleksii to create proposal PR for issue 711.
  • Done: Proposal "Allow to change permissions behavior on extension updates" #798
• Resolution: Explore feasibility of solving issue 468 by changing DNR to apply all removeParams rules at once.
• Action Item: Oliver to solicit feedback from ext devs to determine feasibility of applying multiple removeParams by default.
• Action Item: Devlin to ask Chrome UX whether it is acceptable to allow extensions to prompt for the button to be pinned to address issue 198.
• Resolution: Chrome, Firefox, Safari in favor of a unified sidebar namespace if feasible.
• Action Item: Timothy to create proposal on unified sidebar API to supersede sidebarAction and sidePanel.
• Resolution: Supportive of matching by origins (issue 763). Firefox/Safari willing to mentor external contributions and be the sponsoring browser in that case
• Action Item: Rob to scan for usage of lastAccessed (issue 713)
• Action Item: Devlin to check why “all” has to be used instead of “page” for canvas in Chrome.
• Resolution: Chrome, Firefox, Safari in favor of runtime.getDocumentId()
• Action Item: Rob to update PR 793 based on feedback, to more closely match StorageArea semantics.
• Resolution: Accept second parameter in addListener to take options to control persistent listeners (issue 719)
• Resolution: Chrome, Firefox, Safari in favor of supporting a way to conditionally skip DNR rules.