diff --git a/kondor-auto/src/test/kotlin/com/ubertob/kondor/json/JDataClassTest.kt b/kondor-auto/src/test/kotlin/com/ubertob/kondor/json/JDataClassTest.kt
index f5fa1247..7a3fbd95 100644
--- a/kondor-auto/src/test/kotlin/com/ubertob/kondor/json/JDataClassTest.kt
+++ b/kondor-auto/src/test/kotlin/com/ubertob/kondor/json/JDataClassTest.kt
@@ -1,5 +1,6 @@
 package com.ubertob.kondor.json
 
+import com.ubertob.kondor.json.array.JSet
 import com.ubertob.kondor.json.jsonnode.NodePathRoot
 import com.ubertob.kondor.outcome.Failure
 import com.ubertob.kondor.randomList
@@ -146,4 +147,4 @@ class JDataClassTest {
         PersonRefl.testParserAndRender(100) { randomPerson() }
 
     }
-}
\ No newline at end of file
+}
diff --git a/kondor-core/build.gradle.kts b/kondor-core/build.gradle.kts
index 1eaa6a5e..4e063a68 100644
--- a/kondor-core/build.gradle.kts
+++ b/kondor-core/build.gradle.kts
@@ -105,4 +105,4 @@ signing {
 
 tasks.withType<Javadoc> {
     (options as StandardJavadocDocletOptions).addBooleanOption("html5", true)
-}
\ No newline at end of file
+}
diff --git a/kondor-core/src/main/kotlin/com/ubertob/kondor/json/ShortFunctions.kt b/kondor-core/src/main/kotlin/com/ubertob/kondor/json/ShortFunctions.kt
index 11a2bea5..136bcc9d 100644
--- a/kondor-core/src/main/kotlin/com/ubertob/kondor/json/ShortFunctions.kt
+++ b/kondor-core/src/main/kotlin/com/ubertob/kondor/json/ShortFunctions.kt
@@ -1,5 +1,7 @@
 package com.ubertob.kondor.json
 
+import com.ubertob.kondor.json.array.JList
+import com.ubertob.kondor.json.array.JSet
 import com.ubertob.kondor.json.jsonnode.JsonNodeObject
 import java.math.BigDecimal
 import java.math.BigInteger
diff --git a/kondor-core/src/main/kotlin/com/ubertob/kondor/json/array/JAnyAsArray.kt b/kondor-core/src/main/kotlin/com/ubertob/kondor/json/array/JAnyAsArray.kt
new file mode 100644
index 00000000..10badf32
--- /dev/null
+++ b/kondor-core/src/main/kotlin/com/ubertob/kondor/json/array/JAnyAsArray.kt
@@ -0,0 +1,19 @@
+package com.ubertob.kondor.json.array
+
+import com.ubertob.kondor.json.*
+import com.ubertob.kondor.json.JsonStyle.Companion.appendArrayValues
+
+class JAnyAsArray<T : Any, PT : Any, IterT : Iterable<T>>(
+    override val converter: JConverter<T>,
+    override val cons: (IterT) -> PT,
+    override val binder: PT.() -> IterT,
+) : JArrayRepresentable<PT, T, IterT>() {
+
+    override fun appendValue(app: CharWriter, style: JsonStyle, offset: Int, value: PT): CharWriter {
+        return app.appendArrayValues(style, offset, value.binder(), converter::appendValue)
+    }
+
+    @Suppress("UNCHECKED_CAST")
+    override fun convertToAny(from: Iterable<T?>): PT = cons(from.filterNotNull() as IterT)
+}
+
diff --git a/kondor-core/src/main/kotlin/com/ubertob/kondor/json/array/JArray.kt b/kondor-core/src/main/kotlin/com/ubertob/kondor/json/array/JArray.kt
new file mode 100644
index 00000000..b13db4c0
--- /dev/null
+++ b/kondor-core/src/main/kotlin/com/ubertob/kondor/json/array/JArray.kt
@@ -0,0 +1,31 @@
+package com.ubertob.kondor.json.array
+
+import com.ubertob.kondor.json.*
+import com.ubertob.kondor.json.jsonnode.*
+
+abstract class JArray<T : Any, IterT : Iterable<T?>> : JArrayRepresentable<IterT, T, IterT>() {
+    override val _nodeType = ArrayNode
+
+    override val cons: (IterT) -> IterT = { it }
+    override val binder: IterT.() -> IterT = { this }
+    override fun convertToAny(from: Iterable<T?>) = convertToCollection(from)
+
+    abstract fun convertToCollection(from: Iterable<T?>): IterT
+}
+
+
+data class JList<T : Any>(override val converter: JConverter<T>) : JArray<T, List<T>>() {
+    override fun convertToCollection(from: Iterable<T?>): List<T> = from.filterNotNull()
+}
+
+data class JNullableList<T : Any>(override val converter: JConverter<T>) : JArray<T, List<T?>>() {
+
+    override val jsonStyle = JsonStyle.singleLineWithNulls
+    override fun convertToCollection(from: Iterable<T?>): List<T?> = from.toList()
+    override val _nodeType = ArrayNode
+}
+
+data class JSet<T : Any>(override val converter: JConverter<T>) : JArray<T, Set<T>>() {
+    override fun convertToCollection(from: Iterable<T?>): Set<T> = from.filterNotNull().toSet()
+    override val _nodeType = ArrayNode
+}
diff --git a/kondor-core/src/main/kotlin/com/ubertob/kondor/json/array/JArrayRepresentable.kt b/kondor-core/src/main/kotlin/com/ubertob/kondor/json/array/JArrayRepresentable.kt
new file mode 100644
index 00000000..a993bca7
--- /dev/null
+++ b/kondor-core/src/main/kotlin/com/ubertob/kondor/json/array/JArrayRepresentable.kt
@@ -0,0 +1,51 @@
+package com.ubertob.kondor.json.array
+
+import com.ubertob.kondor.json.*
+import com.ubertob.kondor.json.JsonStyle.Companion.appendArrayValues
+import com.ubertob.kondor.json.jsonnode.*
+import com.ubertob.kondor.json.parser.KondorSeparator
+import com.ubertob.kondor.json.parser.TokensStream
+import com.ubertob.kondor.json.parser.parseArray
+import com.ubertob.kondor.json.parser.surrounded
+import com.ubertob.kondor.json.schema.arraySchema
+import com.ubertob.kondor.outcome.Outcome
+import com.ubertob.kondor.outcome.traverseIndexed
+
+abstract class JArrayRepresentable<T: Any, IT : Any, IterIT : Iterable<IT?>> : JArrayConverter<T> {
+    override val _nodeType = ArrayNode
+
+    abstract val converter: JConverter<IT>
+    abstract val cons : (IterIT) -> T
+    abstract val binder: T.() -> IterIT
+
+    abstract fun convertToAny(from: Iterable<IT?>): T
+
+    override fun fromJsonNode(node: JsonNodeArray, path: NodePath): Outcome<JsonError, T> =
+        mapFromArray(node) { i, e -> converter.fromJsonNodeBase(e, NodePathSegment("[$i]", path)) }
+            .transform { convertToAny(it) }
+
+    override fun toJsonNode(value: T): JsonNodeArray =
+        mapToJson(value.binder()) { converter.toJsonNode(it) }
+
+    override fun appendValue(app: CharWriter, style: JsonStyle, offset: Int, value: T): CharWriter =
+        app.appendArrayValues(style, offset, value.binder(), converter::appendValue)
+
+    private fun mapFromArray(
+        node: JsonNodeArray,
+        f: (Int, JsonNode) -> JsonOutcome<IT?>
+    ): JsonOutcome<Iterable<IT?>> = node.elements
+        .traverseIndexed(f)
+
+    private fun <T : Any> mapToJson(objs: Iterable<T?>, f: (T) -> JsonNode): JsonNodeArray =
+        JsonNodeArray(objs.map { if (it == null) JsonNodeNull else f(it) })
+
+    @Suppress("UNCHECKED_CAST")
+    override fun fromTokens(tokens: TokensStream, path: NodePath): JsonOutcome<T> =
+        surrounded(
+            KondorSeparator.OpeningBracket,
+            { t, p -> parseArray(t, p, converter::fromTokens).transform { cons(it as IterIT) } },
+            KondorSeparator.ClosingBracket
+        )(tokens, path)
+
+    override fun schema(): JsonNodeObject = arraySchema(converter)
+}
diff --git a/kondor-core/src/main/kotlin/com/ubertob/kondor/json/JArray.kt b/kondor-core/src/main/kotlin/com/ubertob/kondor/json/array/JListIgnoreFailures.kt
similarity index 60%
rename from kondor-core/src/main/kotlin/com/ubertob/kondor/json/JArray.kt
rename to kondor-core/src/main/kotlin/com/ubertob/kondor/json/array/JListIgnoreFailures.kt
index 04a9c67c..fdd42650 100644
--- a/kondor-core/src/main/kotlin/com/ubertob/kondor/json/JArray.kt
+++ b/kondor-core/src/main/kotlin/com/ubertob/kondor/json/array/JListIgnoreFailures.kt
@@ -1,5 +1,6 @@
-package com.ubertob.kondor.json
+package com.ubertob.kondor.json.array
 
+import com.ubertob.kondor.json.*
 import com.ubertob.kondor.json.JsonStyle.Companion.appendArrayValues
 import com.ubertob.kondor.json.jsonnode.*
 import com.ubertob.kondor.json.parser.KondorSeparator.ClosingBracket
@@ -7,15 +8,19 @@ import com.ubertob.kondor.json.parser.KondorSeparator.OpeningBracket
 import com.ubertob.kondor.json.parser.TokensStream
 import com.ubertob.kondor.json.parser.parseArray
 import com.ubertob.kondor.json.parser.surrounded
-import com.ubertob.kondor.json.schema.arraySchema
 import com.ubertob.kondor.outcome.Outcome
-import com.ubertob.kondor.outcome.traverseIndexed
+import com.ubertob.kondor.outcome.asSuccess
+import com.ubertob.kondor.outcome.bindFailure
+import com.ubertob.kondor.outcome.foldOutcomeIndexed
 
-interface JArray<T : Any, IterT : Iterable<T?>> : JArrayConverter<IterT> {
+/**
+ * Array converter that ignorer failures in its sub converter
+ */
+class JListIgnoreFailures<T : Any, IterT : Iterable<T?>>(val converter: JConverter<T>) : JArrayConverter<IterT> {
+    override val _nodeType: NodeKind<JsonNodeArray> = ArrayNode
 
-    val converter: JConverter<T>
-
-    fun convertToCollection(from: Iterable<T?>): IterT
+    @Suppress("UNCHECKED_CAST")
+    fun convertToCollection(from: Iterable<T?>): IterT = from.filterNotNull() as IterT
 
     override fun fromJsonNode(node: JsonNodeArray, path: NodePath): Outcome<JsonError, IterT> =
         mapFromArray(node) { i, e -> converter.fromJsonNodeBase(e, NodePathSegment("[$i]", path)) }
@@ -36,9 +41,9 @@ interface JArray<T : Any, IterT : Iterable<T?>> : JArrayConverter<IterT> {
         node: JsonNodeArray,
         f: (Int, JsonNode) -> JsonOutcome<T?>
     ): JsonOutcome<Iterable<T?>> = node.elements
-        .traverseIndexed(f)
-
-    override fun schema(): JsonNodeObject = arraySchema(converter)
+        .foldOutcomeIndexed(mutableListOf()) { index, acc, e ->
+            f(index, e).transform { acc.add(it); acc }.bindFailure { acc.asSuccess() }
+        }
 
     override fun appendValue(app: CharWriter, style: JsonStyle, offset: Int, value: IterT): CharWriter =
         app.appendArrayValues(style, offset, value, converter::appendValue)
@@ -50,23 +55,4 @@ interface JArray<T : Any, IterT : Iterable<T?>> : JArrayConverter<IterT> {
             { t, p -> parseArray(t, p, converter::fromTokens).transform { it as IterT } },
             ClosingBracket
         )(tokens, path)
-
 }
-
-
-data class JList<T : Any>(override val converter: JConverter<T>) : JArray<T, List<T>> {
-    override fun convertToCollection(from: Iterable<T?>): List<T> = from.filterNotNull().toList()
-    override val _nodeType = ArrayNode
-}
-
-data class JNullableList<T : Any>(override val converter: JConverter<T>) : JArray<T, List<T?>> {
-
-    override val jsonStyle = JsonStyle.singleLineWithNulls
-    override fun convertToCollection(from: Iterable<T?>): List<T?> = from.toList()
-    override val _nodeType = ArrayNode
-}
-
-data class JSet<T : Any>(override val converter: JConverter<T>) : JArray<T, Set<T>> {
-    override fun convertToCollection(from: Iterable<T?>): Set<T> = from.filterNotNull().toSet()
-    override val _nodeType = ArrayNode
-}
\ No newline at end of file
diff --git a/kondor-core/src/test/kotlin/com/ubertob/kondor/json/DomainExampleForTest.kt b/kondor-core/src/test/kotlin/com/ubertob/kondor/json/DomainExampleForTest.kt
index 32fb0d09..79ec441d 100644
--- a/kondor-core/src/test/kotlin/com/ubertob/kondor/json/DomainExampleForTest.kt
+++ b/kondor-core/src/test/kotlin/com/ubertob/kondor/json/DomainExampleForTest.kt
@@ -3,6 +3,8 @@ package com.ubertob.kondor.json
 import com.ubertob.kondor.*
 import com.ubertob.kondor.json.JsonStyle.Companion.prettyWithNulls
 import com.ubertob.kondor.json.TitleType.Companion.fromLabel
+import com.ubertob.kondor.json.array.JArray
+import com.ubertob.kondor.json.array.JList
 import com.ubertob.kondor.json.datetime.num
 import com.ubertob.kondor.json.datetime.str
 import com.ubertob.kondor.json.jsonnode.*
@@ -337,7 +339,7 @@ class Products : ArrayList<Product>() {
 }
 
 //custom collection
-object JProducts : JArray<Product, Products> {
+object JProducts : JArray<Product, Products>() {
     override val converter = JProduct
 
     override fun convertToCollection(from: Iterable<Product?>) =
diff --git a/kondor-core/src/test/kotlin/com/ubertob/kondor/json/JValuesExtraTest.kt b/kondor-core/src/test/kotlin/com/ubertob/kondor/json/JValuesExtraTest.kt
index a29997fe..0a2f1e0d 100644
--- a/kondor-core/src/test/kotlin/com/ubertob/kondor/json/JValuesExtraTest.kt
+++ b/kondor-core/src/test/kotlin/com/ubertob/kondor/json/JValuesExtraTest.kt
@@ -1,6 +1,7 @@
 package com.ubertob.kondor.json
 
 import com.ubertob.kondor.json.JsonStyle.Companion.pretty
+import com.ubertob.kondor.json.array.JList
 import com.ubertob.kondor.json.jsonnode.NodePathRoot
 import com.ubertob.kondor.lowercase
 import com.ubertob.kondor.randomList
diff --git a/kondor-core/src/test/kotlin/com/ubertob/kondor/json/JValuesTest.kt b/kondor-core/src/test/kotlin/com/ubertob/kondor/json/JValuesTest.kt
index dd14f2ba..17d8b4fe 100644
--- a/kondor-core/src/test/kotlin/com/ubertob/kondor/json/JValuesTest.kt
+++ b/kondor-core/src/test/kotlin/com/ubertob/kondor/json/JValuesTest.kt
@@ -1,5 +1,7 @@
 package com.ubertob.kondor.json
 
+import com.ubertob.kondor.json.array.JList
+import com.ubertob.kondor.json.array.JSet
 import com.ubertob.kondor.json.jsonnode.NodePathRoot
 import com.ubertob.kondor.randomList
 import com.ubertob.kondor.randomString
diff --git a/kondor-core/src/test/kotlin/com/ubertob/kondor/json/JsonRenderTest.kt b/kondor-core/src/test/kotlin/com/ubertob/kondor/json/JsonRenderTest.kt
index 3f073f6b..0f0b50d6 100644
--- a/kondor-core/src/test/kotlin/com/ubertob/kondor/json/JsonRenderTest.kt
+++ b/kondor-core/src/test/kotlin/com/ubertob/kondor/json/JsonRenderTest.kt
@@ -4,6 +4,8 @@ import com.ubertob.kondor.json.JsonStyle.Companion.compact
 import com.ubertob.kondor.json.JsonStyle.Companion.compactWithNulls
 import com.ubertob.kondor.json.JsonStyle.Companion.pretty
 import com.ubertob.kondor.json.JsonStyle.Companion.prettyWithNulls
+import com.ubertob.kondor.json.array.JList
+import com.ubertob.kondor.json.array.JNullableList
 import com.ubertob.kondor.json.jsonnode.*
 import com.ubertob.kondortools.expectSuccess
 import org.junit.jupiter.api.Test
@@ -314,7 +316,7 @@ class JsonRenderTest {
             expectThat(jsonString).isEqualTo(expected)
         }
     }
-    
+
     @Test
     fun `pretty render array with nested objects and arrays`() {
         repeat(5) {
@@ -344,7 +346,7 @@ class JsonRenderTest {
                     ))
                 ))
             ))
-            
+
             val jsonString = tree.render(pretty)
 
             val expected = """[
@@ -373,11 +375,11 @@ class JsonRenderTest {
                 |    ]
                 |  }
                 |]""".trimMargin()
-            
+
             expectThat(jsonString).isEqualTo(expected)
         }
     }
-    
+
     @Test
     fun `pretty render object with nested objects and arrays`() {
         repeat(5) {
@@ -407,7 +409,7 @@ class JsonRenderTest {
                     ))
                 ))
             ))
-            
+
             val jsonString = tree.render(pretty)
 
             val expected = """{
@@ -436,7 +438,7 @@ class JsonRenderTest {
                 |    ]
                 |  }
                 |}""".trimMargin()
-            
+
             expectThat(jsonString).isEqualTo(expected)
         }
     }
@@ -534,4 +536,4 @@ class JsonRenderTest {
               |}""".trimMargin()
         )
     }
-}
\ No newline at end of file
+}
diff --git a/kondor-core/src/test/kotlin/com/ubertob/kondor/json/ParserFailuresTest.kt b/kondor-core/src/test/kotlin/com/ubertob/kondor/json/ParserFailuresTest.kt
index f8b08af6..393c7057 100644
--- a/kondor-core/src/test/kotlin/com/ubertob/kondor/json/ParserFailuresTest.kt
+++ b/kondor-core/src/test/kotlin/com/ubertob/kondor/json/ParserFailuresTest.kt
@@ -1,5 +1,6 @@
 package com.ubertob.kondor.json
 
+import com.ubertob.kondor.json.array.JList
 import com.ubertob.kondor.json.jsonnode.JsonNodeObject
 import com.ubertob.kondor.json.jsonnode.parseJsonNode
 import com.ubertob.kondortools.expectFailure
diff --git a/kondor-core/src/test/kotlin/com/ubertob/kondor/json/array/JAnyAsArrayTest.kt b/kondor-core/src/test/kotlin/com/ubertob/kondor/json/array/JAnyAsArrayTest.kt
new file mode 100644
index 00000000..250eeb36
--- /dev/null
+++ b/kondor-core/src/test/kotlin/com/ubertob/kondor/json/array/JAnyAsArrayTest.kt
@@ -0,0 +1,21 @@
+import com.ubertob.kondor.json.JInt
+import com.ubertob.kondor.json.array.JAnyAsArray
+import com.ubertob.kondortools.expectSuccess
+import org.junit.jupiter.api.Test
+import strikt.api.expectThat
+import strikt.assertions.isEqualTo
+
+class JAnyAsArrayTest {
+    @Test
+    fun `encodes an object that may be represented as an array`() {
+        val a = Arrayable(listOf(1, 2, 3))
+        val json = JArrayable.toJson(a)
+
+        expectThat(json).isEqualTo("[1, 2, 3]")
+        expectThat(JArrayable.fromJson(json).expectSuccess()).isEqualTo(a)
+    }
+}
+
+private data class Arrayable(val list: List<Int>)
+
+private val JArrayable = JAnyAsArray(JInt, ::Arrayable, Arrayable::list)
diff --git a/kondor-core/src/test/kotlin/com/ubertob/kondor/json/array/JListIgnoreFailuresTest.kt b/kondor-core/src/test/kotlin/com/ubertob/kondor/json/array/JListIgnoreFailuresTest.kt
new file mode 100644
index 00000000..694d18e4
--- /dev/null
+++ b/kondor-core/src/test/kotlin/com/ubertob/kondor/json/array/JListIgnoreFailuresTest.kt
@@ -0,0 +1,39 @@
+package com.ubertob.kondor.json.array
+
+import com.ubertob.kondor.json.JInt
+import com.ubertob.kondor.json.jsonnode.JsonNodeArray
+import com.ubertob.kondor.json.jsonnode.JsonNodeNumber
+import com.ubertob.kondor.json.jsonnode.JsonNodeString
+import com.ubertob.kondortools.expectSuccess
+import strikt.api.expectThat
+import strikt.assertions.isEqualTo
+import org.junit.jupiter.api.Test
+
+class JListIgnoreFailuresTest {
+    val aMixedBagJsonNode = JsonNodeArray(
+        listOf(
+            JsonNodeNumber(1),
+            JsonNodeNumber(2),
+            JsonNodeString("two-and-a-half"),
+            JsonNodeNumber(3)
+        )
+    )
+
+    val anUnmixedBag = listOf(1,2,3)
+
+    val converter = JListIgnoreFailures(JInt)
+
+    @Test
+    fun `ignores failures in the collection type conversion`() {
+        val deserialized = converter.fromJsonNodeBase(aMixedBagJsonNode).expectSuccess()
+        expectThat(deserialized).isEqualTo(anUnmixedBag)
+    }
+
+    @Test
+    fun `still serializes normally`() {
+        val json = converter.toJson(anUnmixedBag)
+        val deserialized = converter.fromJson(json).expectSuccess()
+
+        expectThat(deserialized).isEqualTo(anUnmixedBag)
+    }
+}
diff --git a/kondor-core/src/test/kotlin/com/ubertob/kondor/loadTests/PerformanceTest.kt b/kondor-core/src/test/kotlin/com/ubertob/kondor/loadTests/PerformanceTest.kt
index f3a571b1..e0264b18 100644
--- a/kondor-core/src/test/kotlin/com/ubertob/kondor/loadTests/PerformanceTest.kt
+++ b/kondor-core/src/test/kotlin/com/ubertob/kondor/loadTests/PerformanceTest.kt
@@ -3,6 +3,7 @@ package com.ubertob.kondor.loadTests
 import com.ubertob.kondor.all
 import com.ubertob.kondor.chronoAndLog
 import com.ubertob.kondor.json.*
+import com.ubertob.kondor.json.array.JList
 import com.ubertob.kondor.json.jsonnode.ArrayNode
 import com.ubertob.kondor.json.jsonnode.NodePathRoot
 import com.ubertob.kondor.json.jsonnode.onRoot
diff --git a/kondor-examples/src/jmh/kotlin/com/ubertob/kondor/json/jmh/KondorConverters.kt b/kondor-examples/src/jmh/kotlin/com/ubertob/kondor/json/jmh/KondorConverters.kt
index 7307fc43..f8119f3d 100644
--- a/kondor-examples/src/jmh/kotlin/com/ubertob/kondor/json/jmh/KondorConverters.kt
+++ b/kondor-examples/src/jmh/kotlin/com/ubertob/kondor/json/jmh/KondorConverters.kt
@@ -1,6 +1,7 @@
 package com.ubertob.kondor.json.jmh
 
 import com.ubertob.kondor.json.*
+import com.ubertob.kondor.json.array.JList
 import com.ubertob.kondor.json.jsonnode.JsonNodeObject
 
 
@@ -26,4 +27,4 @@ object JDemoClass : JAny<DemoClass>() {
 val jDemoClasses = JList(JDemoClass)
 
 val demoClassNdProducer = toNdJson(JDemoClass)
-val demoClassNdConsumer = fromNdJsonToList(JDemoClass)
\ No newline at end of file
+val demoClassNdConsumer = fromNdJsonToList(JDemoClass)