System crash when activating AppleShare over WiFi on System 6.0.8 MacSe

[Skammi]

When activating AppleShare over Ethernet in the Network control panel the system crash on reboot, With a memory violation error. Only option is to remove the EtherTalk Phase 2 extension from the system folder.
The system works fine to ping using MacTCP.

This works fine on System 7.5.3 on the same Mac SE.

In both case the installation method described in the wiki are used.

Some additional information:

Updated the BlueSCSI V2 to the latest version (2024-12-08).
Still issues when rebooting when EtherTalk Phase 2 "EtherTalk Alternative" is activated during (re)boot, in the Network Control Panel. The system will crash with an "address error".
When "LocalTalk Built In" is selected, in the Network Control Panel, before shutdown or reboot, the system will (re)boot without any issues.
The AppleShare connectivity works, when "EtherTalk Alternative" is activated after an reboot, in the Network Control Panel. Connections can be made to other Mac's on the same segment. Files can be copied between systems without issues.

[Skammi]

By the way, why is this removed from issues to discussions? As in my humble opinion this is an issue!

[erichelgeson]

Issues are for specific bugs, enhancements, etc related directly to the BlueSCSI firmware or hardware. Discussions are for usage or troubleshooting. It is not to say you're not having an issue, just how Github names things.

[erichelgeson]

A few thoughts. First I'd start with our pre-made 6.0.8 image and a freshly formatted SD card. I usually do not have to edit anything in the Network control panel, just open Chooser and enable Appletalk.

Second note that Appletalk over Wi-Fi can have issues described here https://github.com/BlueSCSI/BlueSCSI-v2/wiki/WiFi-DaynaPORT#ethertalk

Also make sure you are very close to your Wi-Fi access point. The Pico's Wi-Fi antenna range is limited.

I would also run a RAM test just to be sure - these are 30 year old computers, you never know.

Hope that gives you a few ideas to try. What system is running the Apple Talk share and what version of the OS? I could give it a try with my SE as well.

Sorry for the late reply, I though I had replied when I moved it initially.

[Skammi]

Hi, sorry it took a while to retest.
So I started with the pre-made 6.0.8 image on a new SD.
Installed everything according to the guide and I’m able to connect to a Quadra 650 connected on an ethernet cable. The ethernet is on the same device as the access-point for the WiFI which is 3 to 4 feet, 1m to 1.2 m away from the Mac SE.
I can exchange files without an issue. When I then reboot the SE I get a memory crash during boot.
Only way to resolve is boot from floppy and remove the EtherTalk extension from the system folder.
However no issues, if I choose LocalTalk instead of EtherTalk before I reboot. And then select EtherTalk after boot before I use chooser to connect to the Quadra 650 again. I amble to transfer 650 files in a couple of hours without error messages.

Running the install on 7.01 is without issues. Although 7.0.1 eats more resources and makes the system sluggish, hence I would rather use 6.0.8.

[RonsCompVids]

Hey, Skammi...

I have a Macintosh SE and would be willing to test your configuration if there would be a convenient way for you to send me the HDA you're booting from. Maybe throw it up on Google Drive and post a link?

[Skammi]

Hi Ron,

Thanks for the offer here the link:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1NgjocD-WHeLr8xFn8HObHDKY4n1hSFs2/view?usp=share_link
It is a zip file with the 20Mb HDA and the log file of the successful startup. As stated above LocalTalk is selected to be able to boot.
After boot select EtherTalk in the Network Control Panel and then AppleShare in the chooser. You should then be able to connect to an appleshare. If you reboot the system will likely crash, better have a floppy available to remove the EtherTalk Extension from the system folder and reboot.

Thanks again for your help,
Jacob

[stack]

I'm seeing the same behavior. I have the BlueSCSI on the latest firmware (2026-03-01). I essentially do the following:

1. Install a fresh install of 6.0.8.
2. Install MacTCP & reboot
3. Install the mounting control panel & reboot.
4. Mount the Dynalink disk image, install & reboot.
5. Set up MacTCP.
6. Switch to EtherTalk.

At this point, everything works. If I reboot, I get a crash.

Sometimes, if I keep rebooting, the OS decides to disable EtherTalk and switch back to LocalTalk. At this point, the system will boot fine.

[stack]

To add this:

If I'm in the crash state, I can boot from floppy and move the EtherTalk Phase 2 extension out of the System folder.

I can now properly reboot, but if I put the extension back and reboot, it will crash.

If instead, I put the extension back, change the Network from LocalTalk to EtherTalk and then back to LocalTalk, and then reboot, the system is find. The OS seems to cache the EtherTalk option, so even just removing it and putting it back isn't enough. You have to physically change back to LocalTalk before a reboot.